Comments on: Capt. Obvious says “Google still rising in market share”, July 2008 http://www.jeffwoelker.com/2008/08/31/capt-obvious-says-google-still-rising-in-market-share-july-2008/ Jeff Woelker's Home for Search Marketing, Social Media, Chicago, and Life on the North Side Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:46:35 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jeff Woelker http://www.jeffwoelker.com/2008/08/31/capt-obvious-says-google-still-rising-in-market-share-july-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-10615 Jeff Woelker Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:45:28 +0000 http://www.jeffwoelker.com/?p=425#comment-10615 Hey Michael, The problem I have with it is that I know what I'm searching for and I don't need Google to tell me what I should or should not be searching for. From a user experience, it will eventually force users to change their search behavior to keywords tailored around "what others have searched for". So in essence, Google is channeling people into funnels that they can then monetize. I fully understand the business sense in doing this, but it feels to me as if Google is going against some of their core values of simplicity, ease of use, and to a limited extent, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/corporate/tenthings.html" rel="nofollow">doing no evil</a>. Anyone else? Jeff Hey Michael,
The problem I have with it is that I know what I’m searching for and I don’t need Google to tell me what I should or should not be searching for. From a user experience, it will eventually force users to change their search behavior to keywords tailored around “what others have searched for”. So in essence, Google is channeling people into funnels that they can then monetize. I fully understand the business sense in doing this, but it feels to me as if Google is going against some of their core values of simplicity, ease of use, and to a limited extent, doing no evil.

Anyone else?
Jeff

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]]> By: Jeff Woelker http://www.jeffwoelker.com/2008/08/31/capt-obvious-says-google-still-rising-in-market-share-july-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-10613 Jeff Woelker Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:33:39 +0000 http://www.jeffwoelker.com/?p=425#comment-10613 Hey Gary, Thanks for the comment. Actually, I'm skeptical of any third party metrics, but until the market can really come up with a solid way of measuring things objectively via an unbiased third party, I think either ComScore or Neilsen or Hitwise all work. I'm sure some of my friends at eMarketer would tend to disagree, so I welcome their input. At the end of the day, none of them is entirely accurate as they don't get actual data directly from the websites they report on and instead rely on traffic taken from other sources and then extrapolated to fit a model. I know you've attended a summit recently that touted ComScore as the end all be all, but I think for now, we have to use all of these as a roadmap instead of an exact metric. Let me know what you think, Jeff Hey Gary,
Thanks for the comment. Actually, I’m skeptical of any third party metrics, but until the market can really come up with a solid way of measuring things objectively via an unbiased third party, I think either ComScore or Neilsen or Hitwise all work. I’m sure some of my friends at eMarketer would tend to disagree, so I welcome their input.

At the end of the day, none of them is entirely accurate as they don’t get actual data directly from the websites they report on and instead rely on traffic taken from other sources and then extrapolated to fit a model.

I know you’ve attended a summit recently that touted ComScore as the end all be all, but I think for now, we have to use all of these as a roadmap instead of an exact metric. Let me know what you think,
Jeff

]]> By: Gary Slack http://www.jeffwoelker.com/2008/08/31/capt-obvious-says-google-still-rising-in-market-share-july-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-10612 Gary Slack Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:49:58 +0000 http://www.jeffwoelker.com/?p=425#comment-10612 Jeff, I'm curious to know why you rely on Hitwise and not Comscore or Nielsen Online, both of which peg Google in the low 60s (not that this obviates your argument). Comnscore showed Google with a 61.9% share at the end of July, up four tenths of a point from June. Nielsen Online pegged Google at 60.2%, a 16% YOY increase. Jeff, I’m curious to know why you rely on Hitwise and not Comscore or Nielsen Online, both of which peg Google in the low 60s (not that this obviates your argument). Comnscore showed Google with a 61.9% share at the end of July, up four tenths of a point from June. Nielsen Online pegged Google at 60.2%, a 16% YOY increase.

]]> By: Wayne Golliday http://www.jeffwoelker.com/2008/08/31/capt-obvious-says-google-still-rising-in-market-share-july-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-10607 Wayne Golliday Mon, 01 Sep 2008 01:42:15 +0000 http://www.jeffwoelker.com/?p=425#comment-10607 I tend to agree with you here and I think Google will continue to increase it's piece of the pie. It has been my experience over the years that if you rank well with Google the other search engines follow along fairly close. I tend to agree with you here and I think Google will continue to increase it’s piece of the pie. It has been my experience over the years that if you rank well with Google the other search engines follow along fairly close.

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